Fabiani:  ...a few days old.

Reporter: You have no letterhead, I understand.

Fabiani: We have no letterhead.  I think we have a logo though; we've got a logo.

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BBC Reporter: Why did the General not come down tonight?

Fabiani: Come down where?

BBC Reporter: Come down here.

Fabiani: Oh.  Well he spent two hours at the debate.  There's tremendous press interest in the General.  Had he walked through those doors, every single reporter in this place would have crowded over to try to talk to him; it would have created an impossible situation to ask and answer questions.

BBC Reporter: So you haven't brought him down simply for cover control reasons.

Fabiani: Well look at this place.  It works well when a group of reporters is interviewing a group of people.  If all the reporters were interviewing one person, it's not exactly an ideal setting.

BBC Reporter: It looks, doesn't it, like cowardice in the face of the enemy though, because he hasn't come here where he can be pressed on questions about his character, about his judgment, particularly from European reporters who have a different [inaud.].  Why didn't he come here?

Fabiani: Oh, you'll have plenty of access to the General during the campaign.  Reporters already are in the United States surprised at the amount of access that he gives them.  He sits down; he'll answer their phone calls; he'll answer their e-mails.  He sits down and talks to them about anything they want to talk about; he's very open and forthcoming.

Reporter: What was the strategy today with him up there; what was he trying to do?

Fabiani: I think that he's enjoying the campaign process; he told me that this morning.  He said, you know, I really l--

Reporter: That's his strategy up on stage?

Fabiani: Well I think this is part of the process, and it's the first time he's done anything like this, but I think what he wanted to demonstrate was that although he's new at it, he's comfortable with it; he can handle it.  I think he obviously more than demonstrated that.  I think he is as intrigued by this process as anyone can possibly be and he's looking forward to day 10 tomorrow.

Reporter: Gov. Dean has been able to squeez through the media [inaud.] so to speak when he was the object of a lot of interest.  Again it does seem as though he's sort of ducking us.

Fabiani: You'll have plenty of access to General Clark in this campaign.  I guarantee you.

Democracy in Action Reporter: What have you accomplished in the first 10 days and what do you need to accomplish in the next 20 days, talking about the first month of the campaign.

Fabiani: Sure, well I think a lot has been accomplished in the first period of the campaign.  There was a tremendous media build up to his announcement; there was tremendous interest in his announcement.  After he announced he immediately vaulted to the top of the polls.  He's had a good week this week.  On Monday he announced his vision for the future of the cmapaign and for the future of the  country--his New American Patriotism theme.  Yesterday he had a jobs plan that has been fairly well reviewed by the media.  Today he had a very good performance in the debate.  So it's been a good first week for us.  We've raised a lot of money; we've got a tremendous outpouring of interest among people who just want to volunteer.  I've got people who've called and said I'm driving to Little Rock; I don't care if you have a job for me or not...

Reporter: How much money have you raised?

Fabiani: We're going to put that out in a couple of days, but it's going very well.

Democracy in Action Reporter: For the next 20 days--

Fabiani: Well we've said that we're going to do two major speeches in the next couple of weeks, one on economic policy and one on foreign policy, and we will do that.  We intend to focus in particular on places in this country that did well under the Demoocratic administration from '92 to 2000 and visit those places and see how badly they've done in the last three years.  We intend to tour the country and visit places that should be safer and should be more secure in light of what happened on 9-11 but aren't, and examine the reasons why they arent and talk about what Gen. Clark will do to make them more secure.

So we're going to have a very vigorous campaign in the next month and you'll see us--tomorrow we're going to New Hampshire; over the weekend we're going to New Mexico.  I think we're the only candidate that's going to the Hispanic forum in New Mexico on Sunday.  We're going to Texas; we're going to California.  So the General is working hard at this and I think the most important thing is he's enjoying it.  If he wasn't enjoying it, I would be worried, but he likes it.

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Reporter: Tell me what you needed to do tonight and what you actually did?

Fabiani: I think that the paramount goal of the campaign...is to present a positive, optimistic vision.  And if you read the General's new book, you know, he really sets forth that vision.  He has a positive vision.  And I think that amidst all of the bickering and arguing among the other candidates, the General hopes to present the beginnings of his New American Patriotism vision, his positive vision.

Reporter: I noticed that he didn't go after anybody, but nobody, really I don't think anybody, went after him.

Fabiani: No.  I mean I didn't notice anybody going [inaud]. 

Reporter: What do you think their strategy was in not going after him?  They didn't want to elevate him?

Fabiani: I don't get in the others' strategies.  I don't understand the attacks; I don't see where the attacks get anybody.  I think the attacks do nothing but convince voters that Democrats are all doom and gloom and don't have any positive vision for the future.  I think that's one of the big problems our party has--whenever you hear our candidates talking about the country, they're always talking about the problems and how the situation's been bungled by the Republicans, but you never hear anybody talk about an overarching vision for the future.  Sure everybody has a 10-point pland on health care or a 15-point plan on the economy, but I think what we lack and the reason why we lose presidential elections is many times we lkakc the overarching vision, and Gen. Clark has that vision and he's going to talk about it.

Reporter: But speaking of avoiding gloom and doom, you're going to places that highlight--places that are insecure to terrorist attacks, that have been hit by the economy.

Fabiani: I think it's part of talking about what you will do to change things.  It's not just going there and saying isn't this terrible; look at this plant that closed here or look at the port that's not secure here.  You're actually, and again the media will be the judge of this, does he accomplish it or not, but he believes that with a New American Patriotism framework he can express these problems not in a doom and gloom way but in a way which suggests there are solutions and suggests that with the right approach those solutions can actually be achieved. 

Democracy in Action Reporter: How about nuts and bolts?  Are you guys going to set up a big field operation in Iowa and New Hampshire were some of those other campaigns have been there for nine months now?

Fabiani: We are fortunate in that we have several large draft Clark movements that just sprang up...6 to 8 months ago, and there are tens of thousands of people who are members of those groupls.  So right now they are the ground forces in these states.  Obviously we're going to have to continue to integrate everyone who wants to help in the campaign.  That's the biggest challenge we have now.  It's not building support; it's taking support that's coming to us and making these people feel that they are a part of the campaign; that they're an important part of what the general's trying to do.  It's hard though.  I myself have gotten more than 5,000 e-mails and phone calls in the last two weeks from people who just say I want to give, I want to volunteer, I want to come to Little Rock...